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The BC Messenger

The BC Messenger

Real science, real Bible, real history, real world. Enlightening discussions that will change the way you think about the ancient Old Testament.

The biblical accounts are not myth or legend; in fact they are more real than you ever imagined. Each month brings you Bible/science research results you won't hear anywhere else, and why it matters for you today.

Your hosts, Steve and Jennifer Hall, present a collage of topics from the research work of Dr. Gerald Aardsma (The Biblical Chronologist), providing a desperately needed data-rich apologetic for the foundations of the Christian faith.

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Understanding the Pillar of Fire

Recent Episodes

July 1, 2025

Understanding the Pillar of Fire

God led the children of Israel through the wilderness by a "pillar of fire" during the night. (Exodus 13:21) Was this a miraculous pillar of actual fire floating in the air, involving smoke and heat? Or was it something else ...
June 3, 2025

There's No Such Thing as a Dragon

On this episode we discuss a simple story which illustrates some big lessons. After reading this little story on the podcast, we discuss "Four Reactions to Uncomfortable Realities." In the field of Bible/science research, sur...
May 1, 2025

Solving One of Einstein's Greatest Mysteries (Einstein's Biggest Mistake)

Albert Einstein contributed numerous breakthrough contributions to science. His discoveries, which include both special and general relativity, the photoelectric effect, the mass-energy equivalence formula, and a mathematical...
April 1, 2025

Noah's Ark on Ararat?

Does the Bible say that Noah's ark landed on Mt. Ararat? In fact, the Bible does not identify Mt. Ararat as the place the ark came to rest. Instead, it identifies "the mountains of Ararat" in Genesis 8:4. The mountains of Ara...
March 4, 2025

"You Can't Get Data from Myths" - Applying the Scientific Method to the Bible

"If you wanna have faith have faith, but don't tell me you have 'data.'" These and other related statements have recently been made by people interacting with our podcast content. This month we delve into the following questi...
Feb. 3, 2025

Aging: The way it was, the way it is, and where things stand.

We introduce this month's topic by discussing a recent video we saw of Dick Van Dyke, who has recently turned 99 years old. This sweet but heart-wrenching video shows clips of Van Dyke as a young entertainer, placed in quick ...

About the Hosts

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Steve and Jennifer Hall

Steve and Jennifer Hall are the communications team for Aardsma Research and Publishing. The daughter and son-in-law of Dr. Gerald Aardsma (The Biblical Chronologist), they both specialize in communicating Dr. Aardsma's discoveries to lay audiences. Steve also presently serves as a pastor in rural Illinois, and Jennifer is a busy mom to their eight children (three grown and five still at home).

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Helen Aardsma

Dr. Gerald Aardsma's wife, Helen, shares a behind-the-scenes viewpoint on each episode of The BC Messenger. Her perspective on their journey of serving the Lord through Bible/science research demonstrates the heart behind the work being done at The Biblical Chronologist. Listeners are encouraged by this regular podcast feature called "Helen's View."

Reviews

Excellent

"Excellent podcast! Very helpful and spiritually enriching."

jacquiluvsjesus | Sept. 2, 2022

Much needed apologetics for the modern day

"Dr. Gerald Aardsma’s research answers so many questions concerning the reality of Old Testament biblical historicity. I encourage all to listen in!"

HappyGroupTexter! | Aug. 29, 2024

Love this podcast! So interesting.

"I have learned so much and appreciate the approach of honest science and biblical history, but different from other groups."

Wildflower1108 | Aug. 29, 2024

So blessed by this show!

"I love this podcast so much! Every episode has been astounding, made me worship God more, and so heartwarming to follow the Kingdom work of this beautiful family!"

Lydderbug | Aug. 30, 2024

A Data-Based, Defensible Apologetic

"This is a great show for anyone wanting a step up from traditional Christian apologetics. Dealing with real data and chronology is key. Highly recommend this show!"

Josh | July 10, 2025